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    Can some pls explain me this

    I have been reading in some of the threads here or even in some web pages of the members that they avoid stuff with mineral oil and petrolatum ! But I cant seem to find out why ? All of the pomades that I have known over the years that have been classed as one of the best, I now read the have these ingredients in them ! I use DAX mix in with different oils, but DAX also have mineral oil in it.

    Can some one pls explain me why they are soo damaging to our hair.

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    for me, they do nothing but sit on my hair and chill while blocking out moisture. it makes my hair feel greasy and attracts dirt.

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    A lot of people say that they clog your pores, coat the hair, etc. I have seen people use these things for years, but as we grow more heaalth conscious, we tend to gravitate more towards things that are natural. I personally use chemically laden shampoos and conditioners because they work for me. They best detangler that I have ever used has cones and whatnot in it, but it WORKS for me. I am not sure of the long term effects, (if any) but oftentimes going natural makes peole rethink the whole "synthetic" thing.

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    I gave up mineral oil and petroleum based products for a while, but I'm not so sure that they are actually as bad for our hair as originally thought. With mineral oil, for example, I've read that cosmetic grade is actually not pore-clogging. For me, it's about what works. I can't use heavy petroleum based products because I can never wash them out of my hair. But, the same goes for products containing a lot of beeswax- a staple in most all-natural products. I think it should be about whatever works best for your hair.

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    *~NaturalMystery~*

    To this day, I could not tell you whether mineral oil or petrolatum is good for your hair or not. For me, my hair loves Blue Magic coconut oil grease. I've gone back and forth as to whether or not I should stop using it or keep using it, just because of the negative view about mineral oil and petrolatum. I don't put it on my scalp so it's not gonna clog my pores. When I put it on my hair, it doesn't make my hair dry or brittle... it actually protects my hair from breakage and makes it stronger. It doesn't lock out moisture at all. And it doesn't leave my hair all greasy and dirty. Plus, I don't use grease all the time, just occasionally when do twists, some type of protective style. Now I wouldn't use grease if I was doing a wash n go or anything, that would not work. Plus, what's the difference in using grease as opposed to gel or butter for protective styles? They both coat the hair. I've tried oils that are said to be healthier for your hair (like olive oil) and it makes my hair dry. So I can only speak for myself. I can't flat out say mineral oil and petrolatum are bad just because someone on a hair board said so, especially if I'm reaping benefits from using grease or I've seen other people reap the benefits of using products with mineral oil and petrolatum. And let's look back into history... as a little girl, my natural hair thrived on grease and I'm sure a lot of other women on this board grew up with that infamous grease to style your hair in braids, twists, cornrows, or pigtails. So I agree with Portae, the real issue is about whatever works best for your hair.

    *~Poohbear~*

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    it makes my hair feel greasy and heavy, even when i used to apply it lightly

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    my friend is about 3 years nappy. yesterday i went over to help her out with some hair style ideas (shes been in either braids or twists for the past 3 years). i found out that her hair is about 3-4 inches longer than mine in some areas and i chopped last summer! any way, when i was playing in her hair, i noticed that her head was CAKED in grease. i have a feeling that she is experiencing slow growth because her scalp is suffocating- it keeps the moisture out and it just sits on the scalp and the hair

    i dont mess with that crap any more

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    Petroleum and mineral oil leave my hair greasy and dirty. I also had a lot more dandruff and scalp irritation when I used products containing those ingredients.

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    Same here.

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    I agree with Poohbear. I have never had a problem and the type grease I use actually make my hair stronger as well.

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    I dont use it because it clogs your pores and it breaks me out in bumps and its heavy for myhair.

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    Thanks Ladies,

    I will continue to use the DAX and see what happen..I will continue to mix it with oils. My scalp gets very dry, so for me I will have to put something into my scalp. But I have notice over the past year that there are certain greases that does make your hair very greasy, quest I will have to continue to avoid those. That should be easy because I only use oils with the exception of the DAX pomade.

    Thanks NaturalMystery

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    I used to use Dax before when I was younger, my hair seemed to grow for a bit, but then that just sat on top of my hair, made it greasy and my hair was very dry. Even when I was relaxed I tried to avoid putting products with mineral oil on my scalp, I kept it on my hair only but again as soon as I washed it my hair was dry again.

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    My sister uses the black Dax mixed with advocado oil and castor oil, it grew her hair longer add that to the fact that Iàƒ‚à‚´ve heard over the past years that it is good for hair, I decided to give it a try. My hair is braided now so I think the mixture will help with keeping my hair moisturized

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    At the end of the day you know your hair better than anyone, and only you can tell if a product works for you or not. There is not really a right or wrong way to be nappy.
    My sister has a different texture than mine completely and some products work better on her than on me, so it's all trial and error.
    I got used to using more natural products during my transition, and now with my hair natural they work even better as I have so many textures on my head.

    Just realized you said that you have braids now, correct me anyone if I am wrong but wouldn't the Dax as it is greasy attract too much dirt to the braids?
    You might want to consider something lighter and more moisturizing on your braids, just to avoid breakage and excessive dry hair when you take the braids out. Maybe in a liquid form such as sta-so-fro maybe, and up on the deep conditioning, also try just the oils without the Dax that would be much lighter on your hair and braids.

    Hope everything works out for you

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    my mum used dax on my dhair thoughout my childhood and could bever unstand why my hair was always dry and my scalp was so tender!

    I've tried out different products over the last couple of years and learned that my hair is in better conditiuon without mineral oil or pretoleum. and even with other products, I use them sparingly.

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    I prefer to use products without mineral oil and petroleum. Back in the day when I would apply grease to my scalp in the mornings, my scalp and hair would end up being dry by the end of the day. Now that I don't apply any product directly to my scalp other than Greg Juice, it's much better off.

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    i think that a lot of commercial [chemical-laden] products work successfully for many people.

    i think that a host of people jumped on the natural bandwagon and started spouting negative claims about petro products that they had never had problems with before and probably wouldn't have problems with presently.

    i think that some people avoid commercial products for health reasons (possible contaminants during processing, cancerous, etc.). i think others avoid commercial products because they have proven to cause itching, coating, and overall unclean hair.

    biolage detangling solution is hands-down, the best conditioner that i've ever used on my hair. BUT it has a few questionable ingredients in it that are known to cause systemic health problems in studies, PLUS the aroma is overpowerfully chemical, almost like ammonia. but it detangled like no one's business, melting into my hair like butter (i could almost completely detangle with just my fingers alone), and leaving no coating on my scalp or hair whatsoever.

    if dax and other petro pomades work for you, continue to use them.

    if you are concerned from a health point of view about the agents in your personal care products, do some research, and make your decisions accordingly.

    for the record, i won't use shea butter or any natural oil on my scalp because these oils (mixed with my scalp oil and perspiration) go stale and emit an odor that makes me have to shampoo sooner than i'd normally have to. also, shea butter coats my hair (even small pea-size amounts) and leaves a noticeable film that takes several shampoos to get out. everything natural isn't good either.

    certain essential oils and herbs cause my scalp to itch and become tender.

    and natural oils can clog pores and lead to poor hair health too, just like synthetic ingredients can. so i would imagine that it's the clogging that is detrimental, and not so much what is doing the clogging, which would make shea butter or castor oil as unhealthy to some people's scalps as dax or other petro pomades.

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    I've actually done a little research on this.

    Personal Experience
    Sure, there will always be people who continue to use these products with seemingly no problems. But if you've never tried all natural products, you'll never get the chance to know just how much healthier your hair can be, look and feel. For the longest, I was a hold out, thinking that my hair was doing just fine. But after doing some research, I finally decided to see for myself what all natural products could do for my hair. So last month, I switched to 100% natural-based styling products based on my specific hair and scalp needs. In addition, I found a non-sulfate shampoo and a natural product-based conditioner. Surprise! The results, for me, were immediate. I had no idea my hair could feel like this. It feels like cotton and in comparison to how it felt prior to the switch, it is now very soft, supple and pliable. It's definitely less dry and it seems to be less tangled. I am also seeing less hair in my brush and fewer broken coils on the floor. Plus, I'm not clogging my pores, and I'm likely to retain even more length. I'm like wow this does make a big difference. But I had no idea until I tried it for myself.

    Try It, You Might Like It
    So my advice is to give it a try. Experiement. See if you can find something that works for you. If you don't like the results you get, then you can always go back to using your DAX. (I do still have a can of this stuff...lol). But chances are, you may just end up loving your hair and throwing that DAX and all those other petroleum and mineral oil-based products in the trash.

    Oh and one more thing to consider. If petroleum and mineral oil-based products were so great, why are there hundreds on the market, and thousands of black folks running around with broken off, dry hair that retains absolutely no length? This alone should make you wonder how good this stuff is for your hair. Wish I had known or thought about this sooner.

    Whatever you decide, good luck!

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    My sister has a different texture than mine completely and...

    Thanks tatyroots,

    I do use other (light) oils, I use coconut oil ( done very well for my hair in the past ) and I use vitamin E oil mixed with jojoba oil in my hair. So far my scalp looks clean nand moisturized. Even though I have dry scalp, I try not to over due with the oils.

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    Personal ExperienceSure, there will always be people who continue to...

    Thanks for all that info . I do agree with you that natural is the way to go, but on the other hand trying out my works for my hair is the better way to go. Iàƒ‚à‚´m gonna give my routine a try and see how it works. Will keep you all posted.

    [<span style=\"color:#666666\">i]You say you've found some petroleum or mineral oil products that have essential oils mixed in, isn't that good enough? Well, my best guess is that the petroleum and mineral oil would tend to negate the benefits of any essential oil mixed in. No I made my own mixture.

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    I've actually done a little research on this.

    Wow! This was very informative to me.

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    I don't know about mineral oil, but I thought Vaseline was non-comedogenic, meaning it does not or will not clog pores. It says as much on the jar. Is that an untruth?

    I know many people -- with lovely smooth skin -- who use it as a facial mosturizer and one lady who uses it exclusively on her past-the-butt length locs.

    I'm oily so I wouldn't do this in warmer weather, but it did work for me when I was going through a dry, flaky face period. (I do use it on my feet out of the shower; can't beat it.)

    Is Vaseline lying to the masses about not clogging pores?

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    Hey everyone!

    Check out the link below to this site that has a chart of ingredients which indicates whether an ingredient is noncomedogenic or not:

    http://www.zerozits.com/Articles/acne_dete...e/printable.htm

    The COM # stands for Comedogenic... The IRR stands for Irritant.

    According to this site, the higher the COM #, the more clogging the ingredient is. On this list, Mineral Oil and Petrolatum have a COM # of 0. I think mineral oil and petrolatum just COAT the skin... I do not believe they can clog pores.

    HTH!

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    According to this site, the higher the COM #, the...

    Quick question: if the skin/hair is being COATED, then isn't that a form of "clogging" or "blocking" the pores/hair to block moisture (water) from penetrating?

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    I had 2 friends who used it religiously and their hair never seemed to grow...but then again, it could have something to do with the fact that they fried their hair with heat on a regular basis...

    I've never really used grease even as a permie so it wasn't anything that I had to try to avoid as a natural who chose to use only natural products. I don't like for my hair to feel greasy and heavy and look all shiny in the sun like a jheri curl. I remember when my mother used to have to make me use the moisturizer for my curl once it started to get long because I couldn't stand the greasy feeling of it oozing down my ears and neck.

    I half way am trippin' when I use my shealoe butter but it is absorbed into my skin a little better than vaseline or hair grease would.

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    Well, I have a view that is not very common among most... here it goes...

    I feel like hair does not need to be penetrated with water/moisture. I feel like water/moisture is a means to keeping the hair from being dry and brittle.

    So I feel like in order for hair to retain hair length and not break off, it must be protected. Hair does not need to be penetrated with nutrients or whatever... hair is dead!!!

    In my opinion, coating is different from clogging. Coating just covers/sits on the hair or skin as a protectant. Coating doesn't clog pores, it just forms a layer on top. You can wipe or wash it off. Clogging seeps into the pores of hair and skin. Clogging blocks pores.

    So if mineral oil or petrolatum prevents moisture from pentrating the hair shaft, I don't see any harm nor a problem with that. As long as it is protecting the hair from breakage, it's going to aid in retaining hair length.

    BUT I do realize that with some people's hair, mineral oil and petrolatum may be too heavy and may cause dryness and breakage. For those people, their hair may not need to be coated; they may simply need a moisturizer to protect their hair.

    Everyone's hair is different, so different things are going to work differently for each individual's hair.

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    I can't say what will be good or bad in someone else's hair, but I just don't use it in mine. I read it can clog pores and cause breakage in the long run. I used to use it, but I could never figure out why my hair was so stiff and dry. I definitely don't put it on my scalp because the scalp already makes its own oils. The only thing I would consider putting on my scalp is jojoba oil, which is very similar to the oils the scalp produces.

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    Poohbear-get out of my head!! I was just about to say the same thing about coating vs clogging!! I know PLENTY of people who use "hair grease" with good results. For me, most "hair greases" have a stickiness to them that is somewhat difficult to get out unless I shampoo 2-3 times. I wouldn't use hairgrease in mine OR my daughter's hair, because of that reason. I prefer Oyin's Whipped pudding, which is light and doesn't make my hair feel sticky. It is more of a blend of oil, water, glycerin and butters. I don't think that my hair is "harmed" when I use it (grease), but I don't like the way that my hand feels after touching it when I use grease. I wonder, though, if my hair would be as soft after it dried if I used grease.....hmmmm...ya'll might make me break out my B&B "super grow"......

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    Well, I did it. I shampooed with my VO5 Free Me Freesia, then applied two small dollops of (gasp) hair grease. My hair feels pretty much the same as before. Still soft....

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