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    In other words I didn't fit the white folks role. My nappy was probably the reason or I was just a black women and I wouldn't fit in with the other white folks, Because I didn't see any black folks in this company. :Angry:

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    They actually TOLD you that? If so, at least they were "honest"...

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    Uhh, what was the job you were going for? How did you behave in the interview? Is being outgoing in part of the job description? Did you sense, during the interview, that they didn't feel your hair?

    We're here to support you but your OP doesn't give enough info to properly judge the situation.

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    Yes, I would like to know too if that's what they told you...

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    Same here...?

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    First off, I feel tht if you didn't interview-hair\" class=\"hrln\">get the job it wasn't meant for you at this point in your life. And there is definitely something bigger and better out there for you. We all end up where we are meant to be.

    Another thing, any sista is is confident enough to wear her hair in its natural state is definitely strong in my opinion. Sometimes we have to take a step back and reevaluate our approach. Maybe it was the hair. Maybe its because you're black. But maybe its not. As long as you're putting your best foot forward and doing all you can to make yourself a prime candidate, good things will come.

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    I'm sorry. Hopefully you'll find something better!

    I always hate when they tell you that they really want to keep you and that you ALMOST got the job...but you didn't. So so very close, grr.

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    Ditto!

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    You know, if they told you that, it's possible that they really mean it...an outgoing personality is an asset for certain jobs - sales and marketing come to mind immediately, but there are others. Don't worry, I often find when I don't get a job God was either protecting me from something bad or He's got something better in store.

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    I Wasn't Picked For The Job, Because I wasn't outgoing enough.
    When you think back to the interview... where you out-going enough?

    Some times the position will call for an out-going personality and an individual who is a bit aggressive (a go-getter) and a person who doesn't need a lot of direction (a potentially good leader). All depends on the type of job they are hiring for.

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    How were they able to determine how (or in ur how not) outgoing you were. Is this like an event planning business? Did they ask you "outgoing" related questions in the interview?

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    This guy told my agency that I wasn't outgoing enough which to me bs. Because I'm very outgoing. I told my friends that crap and they all laughed their buts off. That's an adjective people use to describe me. The job was for an Accounts payable position and I know how to talk to vendors as well as co-workers. And we have this interview in the loby area because he didn't have a conference room or office to do the interview in. Folks constantly walking back and forth distracting the both of us. This company had no black folks walking around and I wouldn't have fit in with the group as he told my agency.

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    i've gone on interviews where i was the only female or minority that i saw, now i am in peoria and i am an engineer, and haven't gotten the job. it doesn't really matter that much to me, b/c i wouldn't have felt comfortable working there in the middle of the boondocks anyway. i also pay attention to what positions other minorites and women are in when i interview, i've been at some places where there wasn't 1 black salaried person, and that raises flags for me as well. don't sweat it too much, you'll find something that is a better fit for you.

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    We have an Accounts Payable position available in our company right now and believe it or not, this is the primary reason why it hasn't been filled since the coordinator left. As the manager told me, it can be surprisingly difficult to find someone who will "fit in" with the rest of the department, especially since being seen as a "lone wolf" here is seen as a detriment. Not very fair, but this place is super-clique-ish.

    I agree with those who told you to look at it as a blessing in disguise. There are other, better jobs out there--and would you rather have gotten the job, only to be back here in a month venting about your trifling coworkers?

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    yep yep

    to th OP sounds like the job wasnt right for you. i wouldnt necessarily jump to conclusions, because personality fit is also a really big issue nowadays as well as your ability to do the job. heck at some places it's even more important

    sorry i'm a little slow and off my add meds i just realised this was for accounts payable position.

    funny story. i got a job in an accounting department several years ago through a temp agency. i have more an artsy background and no accounts payable experience. i interviewed, hey let me do it temp a few days and then offered me a position by that thursday. it wast until several months that i realised i was hired because of my personality because the other people in accounts payable were nasty, backstabbing biyatches who didnt get along with each other. i was hired because i wasnt a complete idiot but mainly because i came off as being the nice sociable mediator type person that th department needed (this is what my old boss told me).

    anyway i ended up quitting that place because my coworkers were trifling and i didnt feel that i should have to be the one they count on to keep other people from throwing down gladiator style

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    I'm sorry you didn't get the job. But as someone said, that job may not have been for you. You don't know what their coporate culture is like from the inside... just thank your stars and strive harder. And know, better things are out there.

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    be careful about assuming that the job wasnt yours b/c you were natural or black. i think too often, we jump to that conclusion, and when we do, it removes the self accountability.

    you described a unique interview environment. i could see how it would be really easy for the commotion of all that was around you to dwarf what you were saying. perhaps, it was a prime opportunity to demonstrate just how out-going you are with how you dealt with that unique situation.

    using your friends to guage how you are in an interview isnt particulary helpful. they know you when you have your "hair down" but wasnt there to witness the interview.

    so all that to say, check in with yourself about how you can demonstrate all the great qualities you have during the interview. dont assume it's b/c you're black.

    eta: until you work for an all black company (which i will still venture to say doesnt matter), assume that the "white man's standards" are going to be THE standards. so learn what they are looking for and sell yourself.

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    I truly would look at it as a blessing and I am speaking from experience. Last month I lost my job and the reason given was because I was not a good fit with the students in terms of my personality.. thing is once I cooled down I knew it was the truth. I had been at my job 13 mos and was hating it so much that after years of not smoking I started up again because I was so stressed.

    I am a outgoing but straight forward person and sometimes my personality can be seen as abrasive and I was tired of trying to fit in and yes I was the only Black person. The thing is sometimes we want a job so much because of the money factor that we fail to see the little stuff. Looking back to when I was first hired I always sensed it wasn't a good fit but didn't want to admit it.

    I say vent, but move on and know your job is out there.

    Shay

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    I agree with those who told you to look at...

    i had a job as a payables specialist and one day my supervisor came to me and said
    "oh you have to be more outgoing your name came up in a meeting today"
    and at that time im like what the hell does that have to do with me doing the work
    come to find out that the d mn place was a frekin circus
    so i get it does matter (maybe you werent crazy or slack enough to be part of the circus)
    no sweat off your back it just wasnt meant for you
    you will be blessed with a job soon

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    I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. I think that a better job will be wiating for you somewhere else. I would just stay positive and apply to as many places as possible for a position.

    Peace,
    Rasta

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    trust me- its better that you didn't get the job, then wasting your time, by going there feeling isolated, hating work everyday and feeling uncomfortable with these disgusting,ignorant people

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    Did he say that that there were no black folks in the company or was that your observation? Maybe the dude knew from experience you wouldn't fit in (because of your future coworkers and not because of something wrong with you) and found the PC way is saying it. I work in recruiting and I have myself told people who wanted to apply for certain jobs to consider other options because I knew it wouldn't work out in the long run. Maybe the dude saved you some grief.

    But if it was your personality, I'm with Liberty. Maybe you didn't project that outgoing personality. Happened to me once and it was only years later, revisiting that situation that I realized that when they asked me if I had a the personality to attract customers, the answer was yes (it was as amusement park attendant).

    Either way, take it as experience, you will not always get the job you apply for and as other have said, it may be a blessing.

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    Hmmm. Sounds like a blanket notion you picked up from black people who have internal self-hatred issues of their own.

    I doubt very seriously that, especially the former reason, made a single bit of difference. If you were interviewing some white woman, would you choose the blonde over the brunette? No, you probably wouldn't give a rats ***. BUT would you choose the black woman over the white woman? Maybe. Or, would you choose the individual who attended your alma mater, regardless of race? Perhaps. Or maybe the candidate you vibed with better? Hmmmmmmm.....

    Let's first expand our horizons to to take into account the gestalt of the human experience when it comes to predjuced acts. A quick-to-judge attitude coupled with bitterness won't get you anywhere, and if you should one day find yourself in a courtroom or hearing trying to sue a company for discrimination, you'll have to come up with a more wholesome and less subjective reasoning than this.

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    I have to add, that just because you're not in sales or marketing doesn't mean that your position doesn't require some element of being outgoing.

    I'm an instructional designer and I work several trainers. My new boss (white woman) wants me to be noticed more by senior management as she is prepping me to take over her job. She has me (and not my white female coworker) working on projects with senior managment, reporting the status of various projects to them, etc.

    She came right out and told me, when I asked what I could do to work better with the trainers (all women, 1 black of the six) to not worry about them, that she wanted me to focus on the managers so that they get to know me, my skills and what I'm about.

    It's working, she's getting great unsolicited feedback about me.

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    One thing to keep in mind --- especially with temp agencies. Alot of them aren't upfront with you anyway -- so I wouldn't put too much stock in the reason he gave you. In the meantime register with multiple agencies and keep looking for a permanant job on your own.

    Also, you can't be sensitive about job searches -- especially since rejection is a major part of them. I wish I could say how many times I've been thru 2 and 3 interviews at one company and when it came down to making a decision they went with another candidate. I could nit-pik myself to death about 'why, why, why' or just look at what positive stuff I got out of the experience and if they gave any feedback just taking that and using it in my next interview with another company.

    You are always gonna stand out with natural hair so don't project it onto others how you may be feeling. Who knows, they may have picked up on that --- especially if you were feeling insecure.

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    It's not the hair. I have interviewed at several conservative places in medicine and I've landed several jobs. As a physician especially female, the blacks are few and far between. The most recent position I obtained as a resident I asked why the other applicants were passed up and they said were looking for someone who would fit in. Work is definitely about having certain characteristics in the employees.

    You not getting the job is a good thing. You either would have not enjoyed being there or something bad will happen to the company and you'll be glad you aren't working there.

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    thats how I feel at right now, can't wait til its over

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