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    Naturalsoul, for me locs are sexy & braids aren't.
    I meant more in the workplace.

    I would get it better if no long hair was allowed on men in the workplace period. But when it begins to be like "Locs are acceptable, ponytails are acceptable on white guys, etc" things get fuzzy.

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    From what I am reading I don't think anyone believes that men should not where there hair natural. I for one think men should definitely be natural. The think the issue is whether or not they should have natural hair that is long enough to cornrow, loc, etc. I for one do not at all like to see men with long hair especially cornrows. That goes for men of all races and ethnicities not just black men. I sometimes give a pass to men with locs if it looks neat and professional.

    I also don't see how you can equate a woman being natural vs. permed with a man having long or short natural hair. Apples and oranges for sure.

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    This is interesting...our men aren't "allowed" to wear their natural...

    Yes, society has that stigma, but people have to push...

    It is a double standard. Men are not expected to have long hair in our society. A woman can have long or short hair. We tend to have more styling choices with our hair. One of the many benefits of being a woman. Does that mean that you cannot be successful or professional with long hair in a ponytail, cornrows, locs, etc...no it doesn't.

    As far as women liking long hair on men, I believe the difference is most of us are not saying that we do not like the natural hair itself just the length of it. Where as when most men say negative things about a woman with short hair its usually short natural hair vs short relaxed or short straight hair. There are some men that dont care for short hair no matter what its state and dont date women with short hair. Thats their preference and I dont have a problem with it. I can admire a man with a beautiful head of hair and enjoy running my hands thru his mane. Ludacris and Snoop both had absolutely lucious hair but I wouldnt want to date that hair.

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    "The feminine thing I can see how one could say that, but don't us nappies hate when we decide to get a TWA or go bald we are called "little boys" or something? Not attacking, I'm just curious."

    Oh, I've been there and done that. I wore a short natural for many years and got the line about how it wasn't feminine enough - from some, but not all.

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    ^^^It's all about personal preference. Some associate short hair with men. Some associate long hair with women. I dated a guy who preferred my hair long. The next guy was head over heels with my short pixie cut. Said it was sexy.

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    Hmm where are the guys on the board. Intellexual or someone other man that can chime in?

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    For me it depends on the man.

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    ^^^ Icupid I love your siggy! That's what I want too hehe!

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    I agree with fuzzyhair. I would never date a man with braids or cornrows. I just won't.

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    i guess its up to me to defend the beautiful black men against this stupid stereotypical bullsh!t what a f*cking shame. and im going to be mean n judgmental, because most of yall r doing that right now.

    I know i should keep my opinion tomyself on this...but...

    first of all...yes u should. and i white man with blonde highlights is NOT THE SAAAAAAAAAME!!!!!! chances are the white guy would still get the job. so where do u get that logic.

    more and more natural men and women are being accepted...

    THANK YOU!! finally someone with common sense

    are most of you ppl serious!! dreads, in my oh so humble opinion *sarcasm* is nothing more that braids without a pattern. as a matter of fact braids is nothing more than 3 strands of hair intertwined withing eachohter SO HOW DOES THAT MAKE A MAN IMMATURE!!??

    u know hat you guys
    since men with braids are immature and unable to get a job (because they are unprofessional?) and are feminine, then black women with natural hair are unprofessional, militant and ugly. NOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT!!. this rant is for the ppl on this board who come up with BS stereotypes about men with braids or box braids. all im saying is....: i know yall have your preferences.....

    BUT STOP BEING HYPOCRITES!!

    this rant is in support of the men who like rocking braids but are afraid to because of ignorant women.
    keep doing watchu do, you look great in braids. stay beautiful

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    Just as long as the brothas hair is clean and kept it shouldn't matter.

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    Just as long as the brothas hair is clean and...

    Like Kathleen said "oh so eloquently" ; how are we not seeing the difference?

    No one ever said (at least I didn't) that we are talking about permed women vs men with long hair...we're just talking about natural period. Why is it that a man needs to have locs or a ceasar - no in-between?

    It's EXTREMELY judgemental to lump them in with Tyrone and 'nem on the block (yep - I have a brother named Tyrone with twists right now actually; he decided to take a break from cornrows...but he has a job with benefits and BSL hair) when we wouldn't want anyone to judge us automatically because we choose to wear our hair how we want it.

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    i guess its up to me to defend the beautiful...

    uhh in one comment on my thread your supporting me in being a strong black women and being beautiful and believing in myself ...the next your in a differnet thread telling me to keep my opinion to myself

    and your calling us hypocrites?? uhhhhhh :\\

    and i honestly think it would also be hard for a man of ANY race with long hair to get a job than a man with short cut hair. And it is a double standard the same way a man arent really supposed to wear dresses and skirtss...
    I dont think anyone can really compare short hair to a woman putting heavy dangerous chemicals in her hair...

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    Like Kathleen said "oh so eloquently" ; how are...

    Its a preference. It goes both ways. However, to associate a certain hair style to a negative stigma is not right. ITA The only way that stigma is going to leave is if more professional men start wearing cornrows and box braids or whatever. I can't speak for me, but the idea of a man wearing cornrows is juvenile. And box braids are more feminine of a hairstyle, but those are my opinions. And like booty holes everyone got one. Does that make me judgemental? Maybe a little, but that's what I like.

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    uhh in one comment on my thread your supporting me...

    You were right on with your analogy (bob cut: braid out) There are certain things that society expects men to do and be, there are other things it expects of women. Again, if anyone disagrees with those notions, swell! But if you want to start a real revolution you have to address the real roots of the issue. The root here isn't race. It's gender standards and stereotypes. There's a reason you don't see many men walking around with long flowing locks (and I don't mean dreadlocks). It is not the same reason that you don't see many black women walking around with their natural texture though. If you want to stand for a cause then do it on it's own terms! If it's legit, it won't need to leech off another cause's credibility.

    This is reminding me of the ~gay is the new black~ party line. Blacks love gays women love long haired men. Wtf?

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    If you want to stand for a cause then do...

    Standing in front of my computer clapping for you!

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    Yet no one still has the answer to why locs are accepted...

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    ^^^In many arenas, they still aren't. Check the loc board. Much discussion about discrimination there. Matter of fact, one member was just ordered to cut her locs or else.

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    You were right on with your analogy (bob cut: braid...

    ITA its a gender thing, not a race thing. If a guy of any race goes in for a job and has long flowy hair then his chances of getting the job has probably decreased because of his hair.
    And if a white man with long hair gets its over a black man with long hair then its obviously to do with race and not hair, because the company obviously doesnt have a problem with men and long hair.

    My boyfriend (whos white) knows he has to shave, get his hair cut etc to go to work because its whats expected. God forbid what would happen if he turned up to work with armpit length layerd, highlighted jennifer aniston hair :L

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    The only way that stigma is going to leave is...

    I agree...but that's messed up that "we" can only be for it if it's in the majority - yikes!

    Quote:And like booty holes everyone got one. Does that make...

    Yeah, I'm waiting for that, too *grabs popcorn*

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    Kathleen...my girl.. Showing passion for the brothas...love it! Gotta love ya..

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    Like Kathleen said "oh so eloquently" ; how are...

    dam right!!! lol i try to be as eloquent as i possibly can *sips tea with extended pinky. chip chip cheerio :P

    and your calling us hypocrites?? uhhhhhh :\\and i honestly think...

    just cuz i complimented you in another thread dun mean sh!t in this thread. so dun get it twisted i called u beautiful NOT BECAUSE OF UR OPINIONS ESPECIALLY ONES THAT MAKE NO DAMN SENSE. now where da hell u get that from? lol but if you had read my post a lil more clearly (which i think you didnt) i said that every1 is titled to their own preferences. but dun go around using analogies that got nothing to do with eachother and making dumb judgements of men with braids. aaannnd if you read a lil more carefully u shudda seen my first paragraph...where i said i would be mean. i speak my mind using common sense, get used to it

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    Yet no one still has the answer to why locs...

    What land are you living in where locs are "accepted". A week can't go by without some new lawsuit popping up about locked folks being discriminated against. Check out the News thread in the OLT forum. Check out the loc'd forum. The only thing some loc'd folks (male or female) have going for them is freedom of religion. And that doesn't even work all the time (again, check the news). Where were you when people were in an uproar about the highschool prom???

    And even if we were living in lala loc land...what's your point? Why do you think locs are accepted and braids are not?

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    Whoaaaa there STRETCH Armstrong ...

    Yes, funny...but it doesn't really mean much. Can you explain why it's a stretch or are jokes all you've got? Seriously, got me writing manifestos up in here and you're just gonna drop off a four worder?! Convince me Imani! (seriously, I'm open for discussion ).

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    What land are you living in where locs are "accepted"....

    I can't answer for her, but that's what I've seen in THIS THREAD.

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    But if a man wanted to wear his natural hair the way he wanted to it's completely different and unacceptable (unless you have locs or a short cut)
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    I don't particularly like braids on men. I find it feminizing. For business, I think a close-cropped cut is best. Locks are nice,
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    I's true, black men with long hair that's not in locs are judged greatly.
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    I think that locs are more accepted form in the corporate world for men but only after they have matured.
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    Now men with BAA's and locs??? Yum!
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    I appreciate natural hair period. My man can wear a fade, afro BAA or TWA, locs in any form and I would be cool, but them cornrows and box braids uh uh!!!!

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    Yes, funny...but it doesn't really mean much. Can you...

    You said...

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    This is reminding me of the ~gay is the new black~ party line. Blacks love gays women love long haired men. Wtf?
    It's a stretch, I think the gay is the new black is a stretch as well...you wanna box?

    I'm discussing all through this thread - why must our men conform to what we like when we get all mad when they express dislike at whatever we choose to do to our hair? And why are locs on men so much more different (and accepted) than cornrows or braids? I'm not talking about in mainstream society, but amongst us "natural women"? I don't get it (this should probably be in the culture forum)

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    dam right!!! lol i try to be as eloquent as...

    common sense? Other people ..like 70% on this thread seem to understand what i'm saying but you. I'm really not stupid...

    If you walk down the street in most western places (dependin where you live perhaps) chances are 90% of the men you see will have short hair. No matter what race. It really is a gender thing not so much a race thing.

    To answer the original question on this thread..
    I dont think there really accepted... My mum had locks for about 8 years and her job loved it but thats because she was working with young people.. so they thought young people would find it 'cool.'

    When she worked in other places though... not sooo much...

    Maybe it depends on where you work??

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    I can't answer for her, but that's what I've seen...

    Ok. Save 2, all of those quotes deal with women and how they like "their" men. The Original Post focused on business and the wider world (ie not the bedroom) so that's what I'm focusing on. Nobody has any business trying to make grown women think somethings sexy. And in case someone goes there: no, I don't care if black men think I'm ugly because of the natural. There are plenty more men who like it just fine #kanye. shrugged.

    As for the 2 that do mention the corporate/business world...sorry ya'll, but I think you're wrong...and hiring practices and the news media back me up.

    Again, even if we did live in loc utopia...what does it matter? Do you (Imani or OP) think that locs are less deserving of respectability than braids? I really can't see where you're coming from?

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    I can't answer for her, but that's what I've seen...

    Locs on a man is masculine. Locs on a woman is beautiful.

    Locs are just a nice hairstlyle period.

    Locs in the corporate world will raise somebody's eyebrow, but any natural hairtyle would.

    I speak for myself when I say I do not want a man wearing box braids. I have yet to see, in my neck of the woods, a man wear box braids and look masculine. And by masculine I mean not be feminine in dress, body language, or demeanor.

    I speak for myself when I say I do not like men who wear cornrows, because I have yet to see , in my neck of the woods, any man who wear them and is about his buisness legally, is not hood, and can approach me with some common respect. I have no doubt some exist, but I have yet to run up on one. I try not to judge any man who wears them, but a red flag does pop up.

    These are my experiences coming from where I live and on a day to day basis.

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    My *point* is that from reading the responses and general consensus, it's not about natural, it's about gender. It's about men not having long hair. Period. But I notice in the workforce and in women's preferences, locs seem to be more accepted. My question was why, and instead of folks answering it, it's avoided, and now the question is thrown back back towards me.

    I don't know why. Which is why I'm asking everyone else.

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